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Post  aln on Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:25 am

Our GL Elite (M/T) just had its 10k PMS last Friday at Nissan Gallery Shaw.

works done (3 hours duration)...
- change oil and filter
- tightened body roll
- replaced microfilter (for aircon)
- check all lights
- top-up fluids (brake, windshield washer)
- replaced and top-up radiator coolant
- opening and cleaning of all four brakes

costing...
- oil filter - 333.93
- mineral oil (4 liters) - 732.16
- a/c filter - 1,983.93
- labor - 893.75
- miscellaneous - 133.93
- evat (12%) - 489.3
TOTAL - 4567

my spark plugs was not replaced since our GL is one of the units released with "platinum plugs" which will last up to 20k or more pa ata.
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Re: 10k PMS

Post  blooperoo on Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:10 pm

nag pa 10k pms ako kanina. nasa NGO ako ng 7 pero 8am pa ang open nila. coding kasi yung GL. natapos naman ng 2pm including yung pag tanggal ng rattle ng rear hatch pero di ko pa talaga na test kung nagawa nila. i remember sa 1k pms nireklamo ko na yun. nawala lang ng one day.

total inabot is P4990. synthetic oil ang ginamit pero nagtaka ako mineral ginamit ko nung 5k. ngayon nag insist yung SA na synth ang gamitin. nagtataka din ako every 5k dapat ang palit kahit synth eh ang alam ko dapat every 10k. sabi nya sa xtrail daw every 10k. utos daw ng planta ng nissan na ganun ang palit. ewan ko ba. ang mahal pa naman. ok lang kung every 10k. di ko pa tine text yung boss ng sales para itanong nya kung totoo nga.

pinapalinis ko din sana yung filter ng acu pero pag tinanggal daw napupunit so dapat palitan. pinapalitan ko pero sabi every 30k ang palit nun. pres aln nagpalit ka n 10k pa lang. para tuloy wala silang standard maintenance schedule. for those who read my posts sa tsikot, alam nyo na ang experience ko sa service ng nissan and its really lacking compared to toyota and honda. may innova din kasi kami and meron din kami na dating innova saka jazz na na-ondoy so i can compare. i love the GL pero ang saving grace lang ng casa is yung boss nila ng sales saka yung pag palit ng battery saka na din yung bilis ng service today. pero pag na compare ko yung pagpalit ng battery ng innova (under warranty) saka yung sa GL, innova inabot lang ng less than 30 mins considering mas madami nag pa service sa toyota makati-bel air, ang nissan gallery ortigas inabot ng almost 2 hours di naman ganun kadami nag pa service. buti na lang natapos ang pms sa oras na sinabi nila. 2pm ready na so umabot ako sa window ng coding para makauwi.

baka pwedeng sumulat ang loop as a group sa pag standardize ng maintenance sched ng iba ibang casa. lalo na yung pag pilit na gumamit ng mineral or synthetic oil.
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Re: 10k PMS

Post  yoogix on Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:34 am

@blooperoo, sir share ko lang, when I had my 10k pms on my A/T GL I opted for fully synthetic oil which dramatically improved my fuel consumption from 8km/L to 10-11km/L now at pure city driving. Then on my 15k pms, I strictly instructed that they change the oil filter and top-up the oil, so i only purchased 1 liter, wherein 1/3 lang naman nagamit to top-up. I saved the bottle of 2/3 synt oil para gamitin ko on 25k pms. since 20k pms papa-palitan ko na yung oil (after 10k of use).

and matagal din ako lagi nag iintay pag pms, usually almost half day. Pero ok lang, ang mainam naman dun ay weekends ako nagpupunta at konti tao. I even at times bring my wife and 1yr 7 months baby. eh di naka libre pa kami ni aircon, may tv at lounge, a small space for kids to play, but on weekends, the kids can run arround the shop - of course, with strict parent's supervision. Dala ko laptop and pati si missis, meron din kasi naman wifi sa casa, kung wala naman meron din naman usb na sunbroadband kami dala. water and coffee is complementary. Pag sinuswerte, minsan meron pang juice at corndog na libre. anyway, this is in westgate alabang. Smile

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Post  aln on Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:56 am

i agree, medyo hindi nga consistent ang nissan sa PMS ng GL natin. im no fan of synthetic oils kasi mahal saka for me as long as regular ang palit ng oil eh same lang din ang outcome nito (im not sure about the FC improvement kasi hindi ko pa nasubukan). ang alam ko dito is between 7-10k ang palitan pag synthetic, but most of the time nasa 10k. nung 10k pms ko, hindi pinalitan spark plugs ko kasi good for 15k daw yun pati yung air filter ko hindi din pinalitan. as for the aircon naman, i dont think na tatagal ng 30k yung filter, kung yung akin nga eh 10k pa lang ang dumi na eh ano pa kaya kung 30k?! hindi ko lang sure din kung mababawasan ang dumi one naayos ko na yung problema ko sa aircon (smoke coming in).

as for the letter, pwede natin gawin yun "once" organized na yung grupo at recognized na tayo ng nissan. dati nung naka mazda familia pa ako at member ako ng mazdatech, ang ginagawa namin ay meron nag-organize ng EB sa kia pasay tapos libre ang compression testing. for us siguro, once recognized na tayo pwede tayong mamili ng isang casa na maganda ang PMS service at warranty claims tapos write them a letter stating kung ano ang gusto natin "or" if possible ito yung mga gusto natin. basta ang importante eh maka-establish tayo ng good relationship sa casa na yun. ang problema lang nito is sa isang casa lang tayo pupunta na baka malayo sa ibang owners....

kaya please post your experiences sa mga casa para we can avoid those who are giving bad services at the same time ma enlighten tayo sa mga practices nila...
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Re: 10k PMS

Post  steel pulse on Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:00 pm

Hi guys.
I read an article in Yahoo that the 5,000-km (Yahoo called it 3,000-mile) benchmark for oil change was done way back in the 1950s. Due to advances in engine design, Yahoo says oil change can come beyond this old benchmark (how "beyond", Yahoo did not say) According to my SA, an oil change using the regular oil at 5,500 kms is normal. I've been using fully synthetic oil and I come in every 6,000 kms (first for oil filter change and oil top up, then the entire change at about 11,500 or 12,000 kms). But please note that frequency of oil change is affected by the driving environment. Hence, my suggestion might be good for highway driving (which is my case) but not for city driving (which is essentially "stop-go" which tolls more on the engine).
The GL spark plug, according to my SA, needs to be changed every 100,000 kms. Repeat, 100,000 kms. (Note: I'm only sounding off my SA's repeat advice) To date, I have already logged 48,000 kms and I haven't changed my spark plug yet. My fuel consumption has also remained the same since day one. My SA may just be right.
I was also told that under normal driving environment the A/C filter needs to be changed every 20,000 kms. Just have it cleaned by air pressure every 5,000 kms (or 5,500 using the newer benchmark)
A tip: I come in to the casa at about 11:30 A. M. and I request the mechanic to drain the oil before he takes his lunch break. Then I take him to lunch. We come back an hour after and I can reasonably assume that all oil was drained. I can also reasonably expect that he gives extra attention to my GL. As a matter of fact, I have this "suki" mechanic who's been attending to my GL since day one. The advantage with having a "suki" mechanic is that he knows his way around your car. He is able to work more efficiently.
If you're driving an A/T GL, insist on having the front brake pads checked not later than 30,000 kms. Under reasonable use, it should be changed at 40,000 kms. The rear brake pads can reach up to 60,000 kms.



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Re: 10k PMS

Post  zbrando on Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:10 pm

My GL is due for it's 5K PMS.. I'll take note of the things that you guys suggested here.. Thanks a lot!! javascript:emoticonp('Laughing')
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Re: 10k PMS

Post  aln on Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:18 am

@steel pulse

sinabi din ng dealer ko yung regarding the spark plugs, pero ang sabi niya sa akin is above 20k. ang ginagawa ko naman sa nissan shaw is kinakausap ko lagi yung SA dun tapos sinasabi ko na sisilipin ko yung auto para makita ko yung gawa. hindi ako sanay na hindi ko nakikita yung ginagawa sa sasakyan eh. kaya madalas napagsasabihan ako. hehe
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Re: 10k PMS

Post  steel pulse on Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:06 pm

aln wrote:@steel pulse

sinabi din ng dealer ko yung regarding the spark plugs, pero ang sabi niya sa akin is above 20k. ang ginagawa ko naman sa nissan shaw is kinakausap ko lagi yung SA dun tapos sinasabi ko na sisilipin ko yung auto para makita ko yung gawa. hindi ako sanay na hindi ko nakikita yung ginagawa sa sasakyan eh. kaya madalas napagsasabihan ako. hehe

@aln

The 100,000 km spark plug change is, per advice of my SA, from NMPI itself. Kindly validate this with your casa. One of us might have been given inaccurate information. Please keep me updated. Thanks.
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Re: 10k PMS

Post  aln on Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:34 pm

^^

will do sir, im due for my 15k pms by next week cguro... how about yung air filter pala? yung akin hindi pa napalitan pero napansin ko medyo madumi na. kelan kayo nagpalit sir?
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Post  steel pulse on Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:59 pm

aln wrote:^^

will do sir, im due for my 15k pms by next week cguro... how about yung air filter pala? yung akin hindi pa napalitan pero napansin ko medyo madumi na. kelan kayo nagpalit sir?

Actually, my A/C filter was changed on my 30k PMS although as far as I know, the standard practice is 20K. Driving conditions vary from car to car and these affect the frequency of A/C filter change. To prolong the longevity of the filter, request the mechanic to clean it with pressurized air each time you bring in your vehicle for PMS (every 5k)
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Re: 10k PMS

Post  aln on Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:59 pm

^^

hi sir, i was referring to the air filter in the engine po...

thanks!
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Post  steel pulse on Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:26 pm

aln wrote:^^

hi sir, i was referring to the air filter in the engine po...

thanks!

Ah, okay. I think mine was changed on my 20k PMS. It can also be cleaned every 5K.
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Re: 10k PMS

Post  aln on Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:31 am

@steel pulse

according to my SA and the GL's manual, spark plugs are replaced during the 20k PMS. check up lang ang ginawa sa plugs ko.
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Post  steel pulse on Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:01 pm

aln wrote:@steel pulse

according to my SA and the GL's manual, spark plugs are replaced during the 20k PMS. check up lang ang ginawa sa plugs ko.

@aln:

I think your SA got it wrong. Replacement of spark plugs at 20K is for engines without catalyst and using leaded gasoline (see Maintenance Booklet, page M-11). Obviously, GL's engine is not that.
On the other hand, the Owner's Manual does not prescribe how often the spark plugs should be replaced. It does mention, however, that spark plugs should be replaced according to the schedule provided for in the maintenance booklet and that platinum-tipped spark plugs last longer than ordinary ones (see page 8-10)
At the end of the day, I would have to trust the competence of my SA considering that during my 10k PMS, I asked him about spark plug replacement and he told me that GL's spark plug are to be replaced on 100K. During my 20K PMS, I again asked him the same question and he gave me the same answer.
My previous experience in my Vios is that spark plugs were to be replaced every 10K. When I changed spark plugs to Splitfire, the interval was increased to 20K.
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Post  aln on Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:23 pm

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thanks for the clarification sir regarding the manual... i guess mas reliable yung SA mo. maybe we can ask directly from NMPI kung ano talga ang lifetime ng spark plugs natin. matagal din ang 100k
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Post  steel pulse on Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:09 pm

aln wrote:^^

thanks for the clarification sir regarding the manual... i guess mas reliable yung SA mo. maybe we can ask directly from NMPI kung ano talga ang lifetime ng spark plugs natin. matagal din ang 100k

I think we should. We should ask NMPI to re-train the SA's para hindi tayo nalilito.
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Post  aln on Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:59 pm

^^

i agree sir, hirap din ng mali ang info na naibibigay sa owners.
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Re: 10k PMS

Post  xuaeenr on Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:42 pm

Had my GL's 10K PMS today at Mantrade. Ok naman ang service at usapan. My SA clearly explained everything

1. Oil filter change
2. Oil change (fully synthetic)
3. clean and adjust breaks
4. clean AC micro filter
5. Engine wash

Total with labor - P5,928.85

Next on my 15K PMS, top up na lang daw yung oil about a liter.

20K pa daw yung palit ng AC micro filter so I will do it at that point. Also about the Sparkplugs, he said its 40K.

Sayang lang at naulanan at natrapick si George (that's the name of the car) kaya syang yung palinis nila.

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Post  eggy_reyes on Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:31 am

will have my 10K pms done at nissan gallery ortigas this wednesday (jan 5) no. 1 ako sa pila with a 730am appointment. kaya sana maasikaso pa ng mabuti yung kotse. balitaan ko kayo kung ok o hindi yung service at pati na rin yung experience.


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Re: 10k PMS

Post  eggy_reyes on Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:42 pm

eggy_reyes wrote:will have my 10K pms done at nissan gallery ortigas this wednesday (jan 5) no. 1 ako sa pila with a 730am appointment. kaya sana maasikaso pa ng mabuti yung kotse. balitaan ko kayo kung ok o hindi yung service at pati na rin yung experience.


tomorrow na service appointment ko. i got an estimate of P7,000 (ang mahal!!!) inclusive of fully synthetic oil. anyway i will see kung totoo nga itong estimate na ito and i will require a cost breakdown too. wish me luck.... them too!! Twisted Evil

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Post  aln on Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:01 pm

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hmm, bat parang ang mahal sir? ke sir xuaeenr nasa almost 6k lang with fully synthetic oil
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Post  eggy_reyes on Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:31 pm

di talaga reliable ang service ng nissan. super inconsistent!! kaya ako... tatapusin ko lang til 20K pms sa casa. after nun sa reliable autoshops ko na ipapa-maintain... yung nakabantay ako at akin ang parts which i will buy @ Nissan rin naman! Smile

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Post  aln on Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:36 pm

^^
hmmm, hindi ba ma-void warranty nun sir? this is my first time to own a brand new car kaya medyo takot ako mawalan ng warranty kasi ang laki ng nilabas na amount and part of that payment is the warranty. i agree na sobrang mahal and inconsistent ang mga dealers dito sa atin.
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Post  dbanker on Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:04 pm

eggy_reyes wrote:di talaga reliable ang service ng nissan. super inconsistent!! kaya ako... tatapusin ko lang til 20K pms sa casa. after nun sa reliable autoshops ko na ipapa-maintain... yung nakabantay ako at akin ang parts which i will buy @ Nissan rin naman! Smile
@sir eggy, wat do you mean by "super inconsistent"? thanks
@pres, research ko -"circumstances when warranty shall be voided"...
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Post  aln on Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:10 pm

^^
what sir eggy meant was iba-iba ang pricing ng mga dealers when it comes to repairs and PMS. walang standard na sinusunod.

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